I've heard of people saying Oneidas are loud and I just think how easy it would be to add a string stop. Of course you can get these aftermarket but I think they should be standard, like many bow companies are doing these days. I don't own an Oneida yet, hoping I can get one used this summer, but just thought I share my thoughts.

We use the sts string decelerator.

We as in Oneida owners? I've never heard of those but I have seen a Limb Saver String Decelerator. Are you the one everyone calls Joe? I'm new to the site

I like nomad would like to see the Oneida bow incorporate a string stop built into the bow. It could be done very easily by placing under the grip section of the riser. All that would be needed is to place a hole in the riser square to the string so as not to cause any undo stress on the stop rod.

I have spoken with CPO about this in the past and its up to them what they do. For now I use the sims sts front mount on my bows and they work exellent. Yes I am JOneida. When asking CPO to make a change to the bow we have to understand that not everyone may want this on their bow.

You're correct in saying that not everyone may want this on their bow. I think that is trying to be said is that it is an option that would nice to have. For myself just like to keep a clean smooth look to the bow.

Why does the string stop have to be on the riser, why not on the outboard limb?

Look at horseman bows from Europe and Asia, I have shot these and let me tell you they are very quiet and fast.

Bob

Two points:

Since the outboard limbs on Oneidas do a lot of travelling during the shot, any weight added to those limbs should sap a lot of energy otherwise going to the arrow.

I added another well known brand of riser mounted string stop to my Black Eagle II and then removed it feeling it did no good. But then I don't hear like a deer. If I had access to a suitable instrument to record the sound, I might try it again.

This is true and not true.

Like speed balls on the string at define points speed can be gained an lost. Postition is every thing. There are points on the limbs that would negate speed loss and also can be addditive to energy use effeciency.

Good 2nd point, but that is why this is a good place to toss out ideas and understanding. 250FT/3= 83 yards in 1 second. Almost 3 times the average shot of 30 yards. That would put the arrow through the deer in 1/3 of a second at that range. Reaction time on a deer once the brain gets the message is 1/5 of a second then it begins to move.

Most hunting bows are average 250 FPS. I would think at 20 yards the arrow should be through before the message to move is acted upon on a 20 yard shot with the animal unaware with a well placed shot. A plane could crash in the field next to you at the same moment you release the arrow and the deer would still die from the arrow.

Archery is the ultimate way to hunt. We as archers need to be on our equipment and our abilities to a higher degree than any other form of hunting.

Building a better moose trap is my idea of a good time.

Bob

Bob have you ever done anything with string stops on the limbs? If you have would be very interested in knowing what you came up with. That is why I said in the riser because of keeping a clean look. Just below the grip is the best place to me. Just my thoughts on them. Please post any info you can for us to learn from.

That's an interesting thought OBwon, I know that Mathews use string stops on the end of there limbs for most of there bows. My Dad and two of my brothers shoot Mathews and it looks really clean. That would be an interesting experiment to try on an older model Oneida.

I have spoken with CPO about this several times over the years. And although I like the idea that does not mean most will and as a manufacturer they have many other considerations to take into account.

Personally I would hate to see a string stop become std equipment on the Oneida's.
From a practical standpoint I've always found silencers work fine.
In respect to loss of speed due to a weight increase in the string I would refer to an article in Traditional Bowhunter a few years back in which they tested a bow using the same arrow, draw length etc with the only variables being string material, as well as each of the strings being 'naked' and then subsiquently fitted with a variety of silencers. Issue Apr/May 2006, String Theory by Philip Schaelling

Any velocity loss due to increased string weight was very minimal, string material played a far greater role in speed variations.
An example of the silencer effect from the article - the addition of fur balls which increased the string weight by 40.3 grains decreased arrow velocity from 163.8 fps to 162.1 fps

It should also be noted that the fastflite type material tended to be more audible than the B50, which I believe is due to the recovery rate of the material involved.

From an asthetics point of view I love the lack of extraneous gizmos/junk hanging off the bow spoiling the lines and adding extra weight.

Hi folks.
I am getting back into shooting after 20 years and as I use to shoot a screaming eagal people would say it was loud, but I enjoyed the noise it was part of the intense shooting experiance I got from the oneida bows the smooth pull and zoneing out of everything but the arrow and the target.
I did not hear the noise and as far as anyone beside me who jump from the
noise well I zone out any thing they did and if they blew the shot I say I have shot beside 44 mag and if your good with your weapon then no noise will make you lose a shot. That's the fact if you want to test that go to range and get next to a good shot and watch him zone out every thing but the sight and the target. it's call the zone, Hell if my bow made a noise like a 44 mag great!! maybe the other guys will miss and I will win. So if you can make it sound like a 44 sign me up! i don't care about the noise.
but if you do and you want to make your bow shoot with out noise ok
but I like my enjoyment with sound.

I've edited the earlier post with additional information.

The article came be found in Traditional Bowhunter Issue Apr/May 2006, String Theory by Philip Schaelling