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 Post subject: Quality improvements
PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:02 pm 
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Hello all,

First of all I would like to say that the things I'm going to bring up as improvements aren't criticism, as a matter of fact I love the bows the way they are. They are #1 to me. But as an engineer there are a few things I would like to see on the bow. The next subjects are based on a 2006 Black Eagle II and I must admit I don't know how the bows are made today. Which means that some of my ideas and maybe others are allready changed.

1. What: A steel inserted thread for the stabilizer mount.
Why: For mechanical purpose (like a thread) aluminium sometimes is a bit soft and damages easily.
The steel surface of the insert that pops out of the riser a little will prevent the paint job from getting damaged easily when setting up a
stabilizer.

2. What: A steel tension spool for the timing system.
Why: When I was changing my timingcable I saw that the spool had been damaged when tightening the set screw over the past few years. To get
the spool smooth in to the hole again I had to file down the burrs on the spool a little. Not much effort needed there, but to say it is normal...

3. What: Slightly wider hinges maybe only half of a milimeter (thats about a 1/64 of an inch).
Why: When changing powercables I noticed that the powercable eats it's way into the powerlimb a little, so the powerlimbs get damaged a little
and there is energyloss because the powercable cant move freely.

4 What: I know there allready is an alternative, but I can't say it enough. Oneida please get rid of those plastic endcaps.
Why: They don't work!!! As soon as the glue loosens your limbs go everywhere when loosen or thighten the weightbolts.

5 What: Overall finish.
Why: I discovered some burrs here and there, something I don't expect on a finished product.

I would like to hear the opinion of you all on this too see if there are more people who have thought about this.

Thanks Sven

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 Post subject: Re: Quality improvements
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:02 am 
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X2 Sven, over the years a lot of what you have stated have been brought to their attention by a few folks. I am not an engineer but I have been around these bows a bit.

I agree it is not bashing but an honest want to to see the product brought to an even better level.

You know if you leave a door open long enough, someone will walk in.

JMHO

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 Post subject: Re: Quality improvements
PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:42 am 
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Sven that is a great post and we welcome input that can help improve oneida bows. Input from yourself and other members can only help.

As for the metal insert in the aluminum I agree that is a good idea.

The timing wheel with set screw issue. We see this quite often. We have looked at the metal timing wheel issue and also have another alternative we are looking into at this time to eliminate the timing screw.
And possibly a new style timing system.

We have two new hinge designs and just finished testing one style recently. And will have another to test shortly before deciding which to go with. We dont want the cable eating into the limb or the inside of the cams which we see from time to time. Once tested we will have to decide on which ones to use and what if any other modifications may or may not be needed. And this takes both time and money.

End caps we have also spoken about this for a couple years and finally came out with our own. And believe they work very good.

As for Quality finish we also feel there is some room for improvment and hopefully we can supply you with a better finish in the future.

Hope this helps.

Thanks Joe

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 Post subject: Re: Quality improvements
PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:49 am 
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Joe,

Great to know that there allready has been work done on all this. Can't wait to see this appear on new bows :D

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 Post subject: Re: Quality improvements
PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:59 am 
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Hi Sven, I am working with several others on some projects with my own money. This is extremely costly and takes up much of my time. Between work and everything else it will be a while before you see much of this work but its coming along very well at this time. Thanks to the support of a couple other silent members of this forum. We dont speak of whats going on about this until we feel we have a good product. And encourage input from all members of the forum. :mrgreen:

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